Kelly David Smith

Flotsam And Jetsam

Flotsam and Jetsam is a name that most every metal head should be at least familiar with. They have been around for a while, and most recently did a tour with Sepultura. They found the time, however, to speak with the TEMPLE's very own Lior Seinmetal.
October 16, 2014
Interview - Kelly David Smith (Flotsam And Jetsam) interview
Hello there guys, this is a huge honor for me, as quite a fan of yours since my high school years. So what have you guys been up to? How was it to tour with an icon such Sepultura?

Tour was Sepultura was epic. We had a lot of fun hanging with them and getting to know LOTD and Mortillery. Since that tour we have returned 3 more times to play headline shows and festivals.

So 2014 is the year for the commemoration of your second album, "No Place For Disgrace", an album which I have always believed to be your top effort, with a re-recording of the album with an updated and polished sound along with a few alterations. However, in general, the image, not the artwork, remained the same. What do you guys have to comment about this occasion?

We wanted to honor the first release but at the same time take that scene and show the next frame in time. Since this was a reproduction it is a different animal so let's make it have its own identity as well.

Do you think that nowadays, meaning the last couple of years in the industry, it has become something of a trend to memorialize a milestone with a re-recorded release, or even a tour?

Yes we saw that trend but this was not the reason we did this. This was about having the exact line-up that created NPFD and allowing all those members mainly Michael Spencer to record it with us as he should have in 1988. Also it was about getting the music back into the hand of the fans. There were a lot of reports of not being able to find NPFD.  You could find it on Ebay for an extreme price. Lastly this was about correcting and updating the sound of the record to a level it deserves.

Manowar is currently doing it for the second time, Exodus did it, same goes for Emperor that will unleash their debut, and there are others. What is your opinion about it?

Hey I have no opinion about it – It is really a band decision and each band has to live with those good or bad. They are always hard decisions. I feel we made a good one.

Let's go back, as it is badly needed due to the occasion, to 1988, prior to the release of "No Place For Disgrace". Other than I assume enjoying the fruits and star dust of "Doomsday For The Deceiver" that appeared to be a giant milestone in the early stages of your career, how was it back then for the band?

For us it was an amazing experience to be on the forefront of the metal scene as it was beginning to blowup. We had no idea DDFD was going to take off like it did. Kind of caught us by surprise.

What can you remember of the songwriting and studio work you did back then on the original "No Place For Disgrace" release? Can you share any influential moments that happened back then?

It was our first major label release and we were a bit nervous about all of it. Things were accelerating very fast. We tracked it all with Bill Metoyer who we were very comfortable with in Los Angeles. Things changed when we hit the studio to mix. There were issues and some push pull about the guitar sound between Gilbert and Wagener. We decided to leave it along being it was our first major label release. Another reason to redo NPFD later on….

After that "No Place For Disgrace" was released, how did you support it?

We made our first video for MTV, "Saturday Nights Alright for Fighting" and went on tour acroiss US and toured Europe supporting Megadeth on "So Far So Good"

Were the reactions back in the day were as you expected them to be, another giant milestone on the way to the top?

Funny part was NP didn't get the same reaction as DDFD. Actually a little of a disappointment for some people. It became a classic over time by the fans.

25 years, and Flotsam And Jetsam is with the original lineup of the No Place For Disgrace" album. How does this reunion feel?

Feels very relaxed and comfortable actually.

Even if not in full as over the years some of you guys got back to the ranks while Michael was the last one to return.

Though I asked you that question regarding the past, it must be asked again but regarding the present. Sitting down in the studio and recording "No Place For Disgrace" once again, wasn't that immensely electrifying?

Yes, it didn't start off that way it was a daunting task at first. Gilbert went through and mapped out a click track for all the songs this time so we didn't rush some of the parts we lost in original version by excitement. We wanted all the technical parts of the song to be clear and concise. Once we started laying tracks down it was amazing sounding.

What did you guys feel while doing so?

Well there was some things that happened that were coincidental. We ended up rehearsing about 5 doors away from where we wrote NPFD. Just happened to be what was available at that time. While rehearsing for myself I would drift back in time on and off and we would all talk about the memories of those days together so there was very cool vibe.

It would be interesting to know, after all these years, to what songs each of you relate more than others? I have always felt that "No Place For Disgrace" is quite intense both musically and lyrically, other than the Elton John cover that no doubt was a loosen moment.

Regarding the Elton John cover, was that just a plain fascination or back then you thought to yourselves that "it would sound good in Metal"?

Our manager back then was also Megadeths manager and he was big on covers. That was one that we could all agree on that fit Metal. We also liked that song it was part of our generation growing up as kids and felt comfortable to us.

So guys, what are you next plans for the road ahead? Will you be touring again for the celebration of this release?

We just finished up a total of 40 shows for this year in Europe and a small run of shows in the US. Our plans are to park it until 2015 and write a new record to tour on.

This is a different kind of question, what do you guys think of internet downloading? Is it bad for business or simply another way of marketing to rally up the troops for live shows?

Based on our experience and other bands we know – BAD. It is killing off many bands in various ways more over is that the downloading has taken away a major income stream from all those bands. Here's how: Before DL happened promoters, agents and labels could track sales in various cities, countries and what not to determine the expected turnouts for shows. Bands made better money playing out because there was a way to show interest and value there. How can we do that when they are being DL illegally? So promoters and festivals have lowered what they pay as the risk has become greater with no way to gauge your fan base. With not royalties coming in no label will pay for tour support. They know sales will not be able to recoup the costs. Band have to rely solely on tours for income mostly merch sales. We all have families and kids and cars and normal living expenses. Look at it from this point of view, would you want to go to work if someone was taking 50 -75% your paycheck out of your hands?

Guys I wish to thank you for this interview, I really enjoyed the "No Place For Disgrace - 2014" and I sure hope that this release will ignite energies for the creation of another stellar release in the future.
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